~ fathers have known and ~ 05_DEU_28_36  The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone. #, 24_JER_09_16  I  will scatter them also among the heathen, whom neither they nor their fathers have known, and I will send a sword after them, till I have consumed them. #,